Welcome back to Boz to the Future, a podcast from Reality Labs. In today’s episode, our host, Meta CTO and Head of Reality Labs Andrew “Boz” Bosworth, is joined by Jason Rubin, our Vice President of Metaverse Experiences.

Rubin is an industry veteran who started out as co-founder of the gaming studio Naughty Dog, where as a programmer and director he led work on titles like Crash Bandicoot and Jak & Daxter — two pioneering games from the early days of the PlayStation platform. Following that, he worked across a range of gaming, social media, and technology businesses before landing at Oculus in 2014. And he’s played an integral role in the development of the VR gaming and content ecosystem ever since.

With Meta Quest 3 coming in the fall, Boz and Rubin get into what to expect from our next generation of VR headsets, as well as some of the biggest VR games coming this year, including Asgard’s Wrath 2, Ghostbusters: Rise of the Ghost Lord, Arizona Sunshine 2, and more. They also discuss why they both love photography so much, what’s the most slept-on VR game out there right now, and the graphic novel you need to be reading in 2023.

You can tune in to Boz to the Future on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and wherever you listen to podcasts. We’ll see you next month for a new episode.

You can follow Boz on Instagram and Twitter @boztank. You can also follow Rubin on Twitter @Jason_Rubin.